Chatting with Daisy #1
This was the first time I got to know the very spiritual side of Daisy. The questions (in italics) are by either myself or my friend Angfiel.
#kattchatt Session Start: Thu, Jan 12 2006, 21:08:49 GMT
What do you like to think about - anything in particular you think about a little more?
A lot of things that spin around in your head. The future is interesting to ponder, but it'll come along eventually so you can see how it turns out.
Anything else?
The future will come if the humans change. It's one of our tasks, to make humans change. There are people who do the same thing, but none of us are having an easy time with it. Mankind has forgotten it's connection to the True Source. All life is connected, but they have forgotten that. If they can't remember, it's not as hopeful. There are more and more who remember that they are a part of All, that everything's connected. If we can work together, we will have a greater chance. If all goes well, we're heading toward better times.
I hope you're right, that we're heading toward better times. You sound like a real New Age philosopher!
No, it's people who have started to remember their purpose. It's not my fault that it has taken them such a long time to remember what we have always known, because we have never forgotten ourselves. If everyone helps, it will work. Times are changing and it's happening faster and faster. Either society will collapse, or it won't just yet. Something will happen to change how things work today, because they do not work, especially not with humans. They ruin things for themselves and everyone else. They're destroying the earth we live on and try to wipe out/destroy those of us who are left and can tell about how it should be. They are afraid of what can happen, because it's things they are not used to, and then they see that as a threat. Do they really think it would change anything, that they would finally get control over their own destiny? By erradicating all competition they will become All? They have forgotten the connection. They can't replace the True Source, just realise everything's a part of it.
What's this true source like?
It's difficult to explain what the True Source is to those who have forgotten. It's Everything. Everything around us. Energy. The True Source is the root of all life everywhere. The True Source is everywhere.
Have all humans forgotten how/what the true source is?
Yes, unfortunately. They have let their ego come in the way, and that has distorted their minds and made them forget. There are those who have come and are starting to wake up and remember that there is more than what humanity thinks. Humans are on the right track, it's just a question of getting everyone on the same track.
Some would say the true source is love.
If you have ever been somewhere and loved a place, or just have been filled with a feeling of love without demanding anything and without expectation, then you have started to wake up and realise what you lost a long time ago when you started making demands on one another. It's pure love. To love someone or something without expecting anything in return. If you can live in that feeling, you know what the True Source is, what it's potential is, and why we're living the way we are, instead of bickering over unimportant little things.
Some also symbolise the true source with a God.
To symbolise the True Source with a god is exactly the problem with humans. That's not accepting it for what it is, but trying to explain it and demand things, and to blame it on someone else and not accept responsibility for own actions. If you believe it's some sort of person who's there to take care of you if you're good, it's not unconditional. The True Source has no terms or conditions, it just is.
Very interesting. What do you think would happen if all humans gained insight into the True Source.
As it is now, it wouldn't work. Humanity as a group is not ready to take that step.
So when are we ready?
When humanity is ready is up to them. It could take many years, but it could also happen within my current lifetime. If enough people want a change to happen, then a change will happen, it's unavoidable. To do your best, everyone can do their share, even if it doesn't seem like a lot. To just show kindness to someone can do a great deal in the long run. It's a first step, to love without expecting anything in return.
What would the world look like if humans were ready and really found their way back to the true source?
It's almost something that we have forgotten, because it has been such a long time now, so it's difficult to think that humanity would find it's way back, but we've never lost faith in you. If humanity found it's way back, we could all live in harmony together and together with nature. No one would have to be badly treated or injustice exist.
It would be wonderful if it was like that.
We don't treat each other bad. That a cat catches a bird is not being mean. It's a contract betwen us that we have to keep each other alive. They give us food, and we make sure there are not too many of them around so that they won't run out of food and starve. Humans eat animals, but so do I as well, as we are both predators. You have more of a need for vegetables than I do, but we still have to eat. What humans have to remember is that those who sacrifice themselves so that humans can live does it out of love for All that is connected. That's not how humans have made it work now. Humans take without caring about why, and without giving anything back.
What should we give back?
Unconditional love. I expect to get food and water supplied and things like that, but I do'nt use it as an argument to love someone. Even if I wasn't loved, I would still get food and water. I don't expect anything in return. It's not a question of "if you love me, you'll give me food", that's making demands.
Will humans ever manage that?
Humanity as it is today can't handle giving unconditional love, but eventually. We haven't lost faith in you yet. Humanity is still a part of All, and everything that is, has a potential to reach the True Source.
Could it ever go so far as to us not being a part of the All?
How could that be possible when everything that exists everywhere is a part of it? All is what it's called. All = everything.
Good to know there's always hope.
Just the fact that you're interested and are asking questions prove that there is hope for humanity.
I sometimes think we lose hope in ourselves as well.
If you have to struggle to reach what you think is unreachable, it's easy to lose confidence in yourself and your own ability to change things.
You're absolutely right, at least if you ask me.
The point is that you have to continue anyway. If you give up, you're not going to get anywhere.
Thank you for a very interesting conversation!
Thank you for listening. Not many of you listen to us.
I'll try to work on unconditional love as well, all the time.
The more you practice, the better you'll become. Good night.
Session Close: Fri Jan 13 00:09:02 2006
#kattchatt Session Start: Thu, Jan 12 2006, 21:08:49 GMT
What do you like to think about - anything in particular you think about a little more?
A lot of things that spin around in your head. The future is interesting to ponder, but it'll come along eventually so you can see how it turns out.
Anything else?
The future will come if the humans change. It's one of our tasks, to make humans change. There are people who do the same thing, but none of us are having an easy time with it. Mankind has forgotten it's connection to the True Source. All life is connected, but they have forgotten that. If they can't remember, it's not as hopeful. There are more and more who remember that they are a part of All, that everything's connected. If we can work together, we will have a greater chance. If all goes well, we're heading toward better times.
I hope you're right, that we're heading toward better times. You sound like a real New Age philosopher!
No, it's people who have started to remember their purpose. It's not my fault that it has taken them such a long time to remember what we have always known, because we have never forgotten ourselves. If everyone helps, it will work. Times are changing and it's happening faster and faster. Either society will collapse, or it won't just yet. Something will happen to change how things work today, because they do not work, especially not with humans. They ruin things for themselves and everyone else. They're destroying the earth we live on and try to wipe out/destroy those of us who are left and can tell about how it should be. They are afraid of what can happen, because it's things they are not used to, and then they see that as a threat. Do they really think it would change anything, that they would finally get control over their own destiny? By erradicating all competition they will become All? They have forgotten the connection. They can't replace the True Source, just realise everything's a part of it.
What's this true source like?
It's difficult to explain what the True Source is to those who have forgotten. It's Everything. Everything around us. Energy. The True Source is the root of all life everywhere. The True Source is everywhere.
Have all humans forgotten how/what the true source is?
Yes, unfortunately. They have let their ego come in the way, and that has distorted their minds and made them forget. There are those who have come and are starting to wake up and remember that there is more than what humanity thinks. Humans are on the right track, it's just a question of getting everyone on the same track.
Some would say the true source is love.
If you have ever been somewhere and loved a place, or just have been filled with a feeling of love without demanding anything and without expectation, then you have started to wake up and realise what you lost a long time ago when you started making demands on one another. It's pure love. To love someone or something without expecting anything in return. If you can live in that feeling, you know what the True Source is, what it's potential is, and why we're living the way we are, instead of bickering over unimportant little things.
Some also symbolise the true source with a God.
To symbolise the True Source with a god is exactly the problem with humans. That's not accepting it for what it is, but trying to explain it and demand things, and to blame it on someone else and not accept responsibility for own actions. If you believe it's some sort of person who's there to take care of you if you're good, it's not unconditional. The True Source has no terms or conditions, it just is.
Very interesting. What do you think would happen if all humans gained insight into the True Source.
As it is now, it wouldn't work. Humanity as a group is not ready to take that step.
So when are we ready?
When humanity is ready is up to them. It could take many years, but it could also happen within my current lifetime. If enough people want a change to happen, then a change will happen, it's unavoidable. To do your best, everyone can do their share, even if it doesn't seem like a lot. To just show kindness to someone can do a great deal in the long run. It's a first step, to love without expecting anything in return.
What would the world look like if humans were ready and really found their way back to the true source?
It's almost something that we have forgotten, because it has been such a long time now, so it's difficult to think that humanity would find it's way back, but we've never lost faith in you. If humanity found it's way back, we could all live in harmony together and together with nature. No one would have to be badly treated or injustice exist.
It would be wonderful if it was like that.
We don't treat each other bad. That a cat catches a bird is not being mean. It's a contract betwen us that we have to keep each other alive. They give us food, and we make sure there are not too many of them around so that they won't run out of food and starve. Humans eat animals, but so do I as well, as we are both predators. You have more of a need for vegetables than I do, but we still have to eat. What humans have to remember is that those who sacrifice themselves so that humans can live does it out of love for All that is connected. That's not how humans have made it work now. Humans take without caring about why, and without giving anything back.
What should we give back?
Unconditional love. I expect to get food and water supplied and things like that, but I do'nt use it as an argument to love someone. Even if I wasn't loved, I would still get food and water. I don't expect anything in return. It's not a question of "if you love me, you'll give me food", that's making demands.
Will humans ever manage that?
Humanity as it is today can't handle giving unconditional love, but eventually. We haven't lost faith in you yet. Humanity is still a part of All, and everything that is, has a potential to reach the True Source.
Could it ever go so far as to us not being a part of the All?
How could that be possible when everything that exists everywhere is a part of it? All is what it's called. All = everything.
Good to know there's always hope.
Just the fact that you're interested and are asking questions prove that there is hope for humanity.
I sometimes think we lose hope in ourselves as well.
If you have to struggle to reach what you think is unreachable, it's easy to lose confidence in yourself and your own ability to change things.
You're absolutely right, at least if you ask me.
The point is that you have to continue anyway. If you give up, you're not going to get anywhere.
Thank you for a very interesting conversation!
Thank you for listening. Not many of you listen to us.
I'll try to work on unconditional love as well, all the time.
The more you practice, the better you'll become. Good night.
Session Close: Fri Jan 13 00:09:02 2006
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